{"id":78361,"date":"2016-12-11T06:31:20","date_gmt":"2016-12-11T05:31:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/e52.nl\/?p=78361"},"modified":"2016-12-11T06:31:20","modified_gmt":"2016-12-11T05:31:20","slug":"tomorrow-is-good-carlo-van-de-weijer-high-speed-traveling","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/en\/tomorrow-is-good-carlo-van-de-weijer-high-speed-traveling\/","title":{"rendered":"[TOMORROW IS GOOD] Carlo van de Weijer: High Speed \u200b\u200bTraveling"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Tomorrow is good.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/archive.ioplus.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Screen-Shot-2016-09-04-at-07.51.59.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-69652\" src=\"https:\/\/archive.ioplus.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Screen-Shot-2016-09-04-at-07.51.59-181x300.png\" alt=\"Screen Shot 2016-09-04 at 07.51.59\" width=\"181\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a>In a weekly column, alternately written by Lucien Engelen, Maarten Steinbuch, Carlo van de Weijer and Daan Kersten, E52 tries to find out what the future will look like. <a href=\"https:\/\/innovationorigins.com\/en\/tomorrow-is-good-new-series-of-columns-on-e52-by-singularity-faculty\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">All four contributors<\/a> are \u2013 in addition to their \u2018normal\u2019 groundbreaking work \u2013 linked to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.singularityuthenetherlands.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">SingularityU The\u00a0Netherlands<\/a>, the organization that focuses on spreading knowledge about technologies that can provide solutions to the problems of our time. This Sunday, it\u2019s Carlo van de Weijer\u2018s turn.<\/em><span id=\"more-70909\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>By Carlo van de Weijer<\/strong><span id=\"more-76313\"><\/span><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>A while back it was suggested to build a high-speed train connection between Dusseldorf and Eindhoven. Cost Estimate \u20ac10 billion. I once checked with an expert how many people would use it in, say, the 50 years amortization period. &#8220;Somewhere between\u00a02 million (negative estimate) to 20 million (positive estimation) single journeys&#8221;, I got back. That would make 50 to 500 euros per ticket for the investment, excluding operational costs.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><strong>&#8220;A train not only runs on\u00a0noise making, inflexible, failure-prone rails, but also on religious arguments.&#8221;<\/strong><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I love to travel by\u00a0train, no doubt about that. But regularly I have questioned why we in the Netherlands are investing billions in transport to offer the\u00a0more affluent people to travel further than they would do otherwise. VDL could build a better, cheaper, faster and more reliable system for mass transport with a couple of electric buses. But I doubt that they will\u00a0ever get\u00a0the opportunity, because a\u00a0train not only runs on\u00a0noise making, inflexible, failure-prone rails, but also on religious arguments. &#8220;A prosperous country has a beautiful train system&#8221; and &#8220;people just love trains&#8221;, that category.<\/p>\n<p>Parallel to the high speed arguments, the religious arguments are also thrown in\u00a0your face\u00a0at high speed. Trains would be the only way to dampen the rapid increase in air traffic. However, this is only for distances below 500 km, is the general view. And this happens to represent only 5% of the worldwide kilometers flown. And with an almost\u00a0unstoppable growth of air traffic, this would therefore be a very expensive drop in the ocean.<\/p>\n<p>But the funniest argument for high speed trains came from a train consultant. He seriously said\u00a0&#8220;but in Spain they can&#8217;t be that crazy?&#8221; Because indeed, a huge investment in high-speed trains has been made in Spain over the last decades.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><strong>&#8220;It would have been cheaper to transport\u00a0all the people who have used the Spanish high-speed train in those 25 years with a helicopter, for free.&#8221;<\/strong><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Of course I did some research and this is my conclusion: yes, in Spain they are crazy. Spain has built more than 3,000 kilometers of high-speed railway in the last 25 years, passing countries like Japan and France in high speed. And all of this partly financed by European funds for regional development. To illustrate: It would have been cheaper to transport\u00a0all the people who have used the Spanish high-speed train in those 25 years with a helicopter, for free. Ok, this would not have been a good plan, but only just to make a point. In fact, it&#8217;s even worse: the hardly\u00a0quantifiable economic promise for the underdeveloped regions connected by the high-speed line with, for example, Madrid turns out to be completely false. Contrary, it appears that all economic activity has flowed in the other direction.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em><strong>&#8220;In about 25-30 years we will make fuel from electricity, not vice versa.&#8221;<\/strong><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So please let go of that dream. Or even better, let it fly. At the Technical University of Eindhoven, we work hard on finding a sustainable, circular fuel. My prediction: in about 25-30 years we will make fuel from electricity, not vice versa. A fuel that absorbs just as much CO2 as\u00a0it produces during combustion. This can help\u00a0any vehicle that isn&#8217;t able to drive electrically, trucks, boats and planes included.<\/p>\n<p>I have spent last\u00a0week in Silicon Valley, where the discussion on a high speed train between LA and San Francisco has raged for decades already. But like always in the Valley, the counter arguments come from the high tech corner. A Hyperloop, once initiated by Elon Musk, would be able to do it better and cheaper. Knowing that one of the fundamental problems of rail is that it is too inflexible to adapt to a future that just requires increasing flexibility, it is a very interesting and challenging step in the completely wrong direction. Let alone all the\u00a0technical barriers&#8230; Just watch this and shudder:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The Hyperloop: BUSTED!\" width=\"1290\" height=\"726\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/RNFesa01llk?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>But hey, I would be completely happy if someone would\u00a0convince me to be wrong. Because even though, unfortunately, it doesn&#8217;t work the other way: the breakthrough of tomorrow is yesterday&#8217;s stupid idea.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tomorrow is good. In a weekly column, alternately written by Lucien Engelen, Maarten Steinbuch, Carlo van de Weijer and Daan Kersten, E52 tries to find out what the future will look like. All four contributors are \u2013 in addition to their \u2018normal\u2019 groundbreaking work \u2013 linked to the SingularityU The\u00a0Netherlands, the organization that focuses on [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1618,"featured_media":53013,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"advgb_blocks_editor_width":"","advgb_blocks_columns_visual_guide":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[7809],"tags":[6889,8923,484,829,7811],"location":[],"article_type":[],"serie":[],"archives":[],"internal_archives":[],"reboot-archive":[],"class_list":["post-78361","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-opinion","tag-carlo-van-de-weijer-en","tag-hyperloop-en","tag-innovation","tag-technology","tag-tomorrow-is-good"],"blocksy_meta":[],"acf":{"subtitle":"","text_display_homepage":false},"author_meta":{"display_name":"Carlo van de Weijer","author_link":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/author\/carlo-van-de-weijer\/"},"featured_img":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/van-gijzel-antoin-scholten-venlo-hans-wilhelm-reiners-mgladbach-en-thomas-geisel-dusseldorf-608x400-1-300x197.jpg","coauthors":[],"tax_additional":{"categories":{"linked":["<a href=\"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/en\/category\/opinion\/\" class=\"advgb-post-tax-term\">Opinion<\/a>"],"unlinked":["<span class=\"advgb-post-tax-term\">Opinion<\/span>"]},"tags":{"linked":["<a href=\"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/en\/category\/opinion\/\" class=\"advgb-post-tax-term\">Carlo van de Weijer<\/a>","<a href=\"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/en\/category\/opinion\/\" class=\"advgb-post-tax-term\">hyperloop<\/a>","<a href=\"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/en\/category\/opinion\/\" class=\"advgb-post-tax-term\">innovation<\/a>","<a href=\"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/en\/category\/opinion\/\" class=\"advgb-post-tax-term\">technology<\/a>","<a href=\"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/en\/category\/opinion\/\" class=\"advgb-post-tax-term\">Tomorrow is Good<\/a>"],"unlinked":["<span class=\"advgb-post-tax-term\">Carlo van de Weijer<\/span>","<span class=\"advgb-post-tax-term\">hyperloop<\/span>","<span class=\"advgb-post-tax-term\">innovation<\/span>","<span class=\"advgb-post-tax-term\">technology<\/span>","<span class=\"advgb-post-tax-term\">Tomorrow is Good<\/span>"]}},"comment_count":"0","relative_dates":{"created":"Posted 9 years ago","modified":"Updated 9 years ago"},"absolute_dates":{"created":"Posted on December 11, 2016","modified":"Updated on December 11, 2016"},"absolute_dates_time":{"created":"Posted on December 11, 2016 6:31 am","modified":"Updated on December 11, 2016 6:31 am"},"featured_img_caption":"","series_order":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/78361","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1618"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=78361"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/78361\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/53013"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=78361"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=78361"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=78361"},{"taxonomy":"location","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/location?post=78361"},{"taxonomy":"article_type","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/article_type?post=78361"},{"taxonomy":"serie","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/serie?post=78361"},{"taxonomy":"archives","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/archives?post=78361"},{"taxonomy":"internal_archives","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/internal_archives?post=78361"},{"taxonomy":"reboot-archive","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/reboot-archive?post=78361"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}