{"id":323648,"date":"2021-12-09T22:05:09","date_gmt":"2021-12-09T21:05:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/innovationorigins.com\/?p=323648"},"modified":"2021-12-09T22:05:09","modified_gmt":"2021-12-09T21:05:09","slug":"electric-auke-we-should-all-start-smoking-and-driving-a-hummer-to-line-the-states-coffers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ioplus.nl\/archive\/en\/electric-auke-we-should-all-start-smoking-and-driving-a-hummer-to-line-the-states-coffers\/","title":{"rendered":"Electric Auke: &#8216;We should all start smoking and driving a Hummer to line the state&#8217;s coffers&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p id=\"block-8ca01a3d-9ba1-45f6-ba9f-87c2f7fbb6fd\">When it comes to making the earth more sustainable, claims are being made all over the place. But what is true? Together with sustainability expert Auke Hoekstra, better known on Twitter as &#8216;<em>Debunker-in-Chief<\/em>&#8216;, Innovation Origins sets out to find this out for you. This week, Auke exposes a flaw in the mindset of the government when it comes to electric driving. What exactly is going on there?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-edd29d4b-205a-40f7-956c-2fd94d81d635\">As part of a \u20ac6.8 billion package of climate measures, the government is allocating \u20ac600 million to promote electric driving. A good thing you might say, but most of the money is not being used to put more plug-in cars on the roads. Instead, it is being used to cover a gap in the budget. Because more and more people are driving electric cars, the government is pulling in less money from road tax and excise duties. In order to cover this shortfall, more than \u20ac500 million of this &#8220;stimulus for electric driving&#8221; is going directly into declining fossil-fuel transport revenues, according to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pbl.nl\/sites\/default\/files\/downloads\/pbl-2021-aandachtspunten-bij-de-klimaat-en-energiemaatregelen-uit-de-miljoenennota-2022-4737.pdf\">PBL Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-5fcb4db6-cbf0-4391-ba15-f1ecf423d787\">&#8220;So, this is something very different from promoting electric driving,&#8221; says Auke indignantly. &#8220;It bothers me that politicians are trying to make a good impression by acting as if they are allocating money to support electric driving, while in fact they are just shifting money from one jar to another. Obviously, it&#8217;s a shame that the treasury is losing income, but we shouldn&#8217;t be thinking like that at all.&#8221; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-920a6587-d9c8-4743-8301-a214f899f008\">Then just stop insulating your house<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-7ba7fe3b-dc98-469e-bb5b-347328a27266\">Auke can&#8217;t suppress a cynical laugh: &#8220;If it&#8217;s only about government revenue, we might as well stop insulating our homes. Poorly insulated properties yield more energy tax. If we follow this line of thought, we might as well all start smoking heavily and driving a huge hummer to line the state coffers.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-ugb-accordion ugb-accordion ugb-9ceb9ca ugb-accordion--v2 ugb-accordion--design-basic ugb-main-block\" aria-expanded=\"false\"><div class=\"ugb-inner-block\"><div class=\"ugb-block-content\"><div class=\"ugb-accordion__item\"><div class=\"ugb-accordion__heading\" role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\"><h3 class=\"ugb-accordion__title\">More about Auke Hoekstra<\/h3><svg viewbox=\"0 0 20 20\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"ugb-accordion__arrow\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\"><path d=\"M16.7 3.3L10 10 3.3 3.4 0 6.7l10 10v-.1l10-9.9z\"><\/path><\/svg><\/div><div class=\"ugb-accordion__content\" role=\"region\"><div class=\"ugb-accordion__content-inner\">\n<p><em>Auke Hoekstra is scientific director of the <a href=\"https:\/\/neonresearch.nl\/\">NEON Research project<\/a> at the Eindhoven University of Technology. This is where he works with a large group of scientists from many different disciplines on the future of sustainable energy and clean mobility. After a variety of commercial positions, Auke changed course almost 15 years ago. He wanted to make the world a more beautiful place. But how do you do that? Auke wrote a book about electric driving \u2013 the technology was still in its infancy at the time \u2013 and the future of mobility. In the beginning, he was a voice in the wilderness, but now he is winning support from all corners. Auke has been busy proving that his views are for almost fifteen years. On Twitter, he is jokingly known as the \u2018Debunker-in-Chief\u2019, and he takes to Twitter to vehemently refute false research or inaccurate news reports. For example, he has repeatedly rebutted the claim that diesel cars are cleaner than plug-in cars. Auke also designed and built his own energy-neutral home with 77 solar panels as a roof and \u2013 it goes without saying- he drives an electric car.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-10165174-bfa1-4bc0-bc66-719d5c917472\">Moreover, Auke laments, politicians are projecting that electronic driving will cost an awful lot of money. &#8220;While you &#8211; if you do the math right &#8211; want to know whether the Dutch business community will benefit from this. Will we become poorer or richer? That&#8217;s something we always want to know,&#8221; Auke closes his eyes and explains that procuring all those electric cars costs money. &#8220;This money is siphoned away from the Netherlands. It&#8217;s true that these cars are more expensive to buy than conventional vehicles, but they are a lot cleaner. At the same time, this also means that we don&#8217;t have to import as much oil from other countries. The greening of the electricity mix is also contributing to this. If you weigh all of that up, you can say with certainty that electric driving will be profitable long before 2030.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-4b9e5f2d-b632-4adc-9cc3-bae160307431\">That&#8217;s why Auke thinks it&#8217;s a good thing that \u20ac90 million is being set aside for private individuals who want to buy an e-car. \u201cPublic interest is high, a similar kind of subsidy was used up very quickly last year. Now more money than originally planned is being earmarked for this, which is good. This will enable more people to switch to electric driving. Not only due to this fund, but also because more and more affordable models are coming onto the market.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-bbbfe960-b782-4812-8dfe-c883f7e80819\">Offsetting the costs of CO<sub>2<\/sub> damages against the loss of excise duty<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-1ad926b5-360e-431c-94df-a1b9ee0cf14f\">But according to Auke, the real benefit is found in the reduction of CO<sub>2<\/sub> emissions. According to the PBL, emissions will drop by a total of about 1.4 megatonnes between now and 2030 (0.1 to 0.2 megatonnes of CO<sub>2<\/sub> per year). &#8220;The damage that these emissions would have caused can be set off against the loss of excise duty. By driving electrically, you avoid emissions and the damage that goes with it. That&#8217;s what the real gain is for the Netherlands.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-2cdffed4-d6ff-4eb9-bdea-94859a5443e9\">Except, as Auke also knows, it&#8217;s pointless to look at just the Netherlands. &#8220;Suppose you look at the world and start to work out what this means for 8 billion people. Then you also have to take into account the consequences of higher CO<sub>2<\/sub> emissions. Will you have more floods? Heat waves? Or other kinds of damage? That is now being calculated in the social cost of carbon, which shows how much the damage from one tonne of CO<sub>2<\/sub> costs.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-10351608-c427-4373-990b-576b5ac9c25c\"><em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/innovationorigins.com\/en\/electric-auke-we-should-actually-listen-to-economists-less\/\">More about the social cost of carbon here<\/a>.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-2bc8b2f7-e599-4881-a959-21b4e3daab99\">&#8220;Now, when making calcuations, we still work with a kind of discount rate that ensures that the mess we are making will be left for later generations. This discount rate presumes that money will become more valuable. So for the same amount of money now, you will be able to clean up more mess in 2100. This is how we keep putting this off indefinitely. Why? Surely it&#8217;s much more logical and clearer if each generation is responsible for their own pollution.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-35dc4e2f-34cd-4e6c-83be-f4e09654f277\">Each generation is responsible for its own pollution<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-f317229f-6737-4b9e-8509-aeb6f129d3a0\">With one finger raised in the air, Auke goes on. &#8220;More and more experts agree and are advocating for the scrapping of that discount. And that&#8217;s good news. If we do that, then we are personally responsible for the mess we make. Do you still want to use coal then? Suddenly its five times more expensive. That&#8217;s really not profitable, just look how quickly all those power stations will shut down.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-3a097226-6b3c-42c7-8a45-fa7a5e6f3257\">It would therefore be a good idea, according to Auke, to apply these calculations to mobility as well. &#8220;The point I want to make is that it doesn&#8217;t cost any money. 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